tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post114324644978245437..comments2024-03-27T13:28:50.405-07:00Comments on Alienated in Vancouver: Are the Sun City Girls Anti-Semites?Allan MacInnishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05394301776870727673noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-22771813662691441382012-06-10T09:27:02.367-07:002012-06-10T09:27:02.367-07:00I don't believe they are anti Semites. I have ...I don't believe they are anti Semites. I have been loving their thing for 20 years and while they will go to great lengths to piss people off, I haven't found any substance to these claims.<br /><br />And if they were anti Zionist (which they may or may not be), that is a far different thing than anti Semite. I am not against people of any ethnicities but I am against all States. Therefore it makes me anti Zionist, but not anti semite. The same way that I am am anti America (the institution, not the people.) <br /><br />Just laugh at life...it's only life.andujarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14267629878658707653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-24046819450218394322011-07-29T11:13:56.058-07:002011-07-29T11:13:56.058-07:00But Israel DID do 9/11, as the evidence clearly in...But Israel DID do 9/11, as the evidence clearly indicates. At least the former Director of Studies, US Army War College Strategic Studies Institute, Alan Sabrosky (of Jewish ancestory) says so. Look it up on yourube and you can hear it from him. And let me tell you one more thing, if the American people find out what really happend on 9/11, "Israel" is going to be eradicated from planet Earth as it sbould be, and every Zionist, Zionist collaborator, and Zionist apologist (that's you), will be hunted down and executed for the lice that they are. Just a pure statement of fact about what will happen if Americans learn the truth. Nuke "Israel" now, is my motto. shalom!Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942795163470617603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-43889192532277474002009-09-24T00:00:40.427-07:002009-09-24T00:00:40.427-07:00They take the piss out of every religion. As the ...They take the piss out of every religion. As the other poster wrote: they're essentially attacking those in power, those who abuse power. <br />Listen to some of their live shows and you'll hear some pretty strong polemic against islam too. And well, naturally, christianity is beaten mercilessly by them. <br />But that's accepted as norm...we just don't have a word for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-24840883477479776132009-07-12T06:50:13.261-07:002009-07-12T06:50:13.261-07:00Even if they are, I don't care much about thei...Even if they are, I don't care much about their political leanings. <br /><br />Still, its an interesting an subject to ponder on - thanks for doing research/doing a post about this.Ilyahttp://ihrtn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-78398822588175080662009-03-31T20:01:00.000-07:002009-03-31T20:01:00.000-07:00Who cares? Are Semites Anti-Semites?Who cares? Are Semites Anti-Semites?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-1575936100249917882008-04-27T08:43:00.000-07:002008-04-27T08:43:00.000-07:00in Montreal, Alan said onstage "Do we have to use ...in Montreal, Alan said onstage "Do we have to use the number 6 million or can we say 5 million, 998,000 - or something like that.<BR/><BR/>YES the Lebanese Bishop brothers are anti-semites!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-1144203711334123912006-04-04T19:21:00.000-07:002006-04-04T19:21:00.000-07:00Tho' I'm off the list, a friend forwarded me some ...Tho' I'm off the list, a friend forwarded me some recent stuff, and once again, the best piece of writing is from Appearnance -- it gets at least a B+ for its attempts to mock me:<BR/><BR/>(Commence quote)<BR/><BR/>Are the Sun City Girls cannibals??<BR/><BR/>I find some of the Sun City Girls' music to be interesting (except those times when the singer cackles and shrieks, which hurts my ears a little, and he barely even seems to be saying words), and I think their Sublime Frequencies label is awfully neat, devoted to poor downtrodden cultures elsewhere in the sadly undeveloped part of the world, but I've come across a few things on their lyrics archive that, well, let's just say they have me a little concerned. I have to wonder – could the Sun City Girls be cannibals? <BR/><BR/>First of all, I couldn't help but notice this verse in the song "Bitter Cold Countryside." <BR/><BR/>Then we chopped him into six pieces<BR/>Two arms, two legs and a head<BR/>And his mid-section made a fine table<BR/>Next to Jimmy-O-Wilkinson's bed<BR/><BR/>And his toes now creep in the river<BR/>And his fingers they tickle the corn<BR/>And his skull flies high in the hemlock....<BR/>From dusk till the early morn<BR/><BR/><BR/>Now, granted, there are no references to the actual consumption of human flesh here, but the ritualistic dismemberment of a human body is very often part of cannibalistic practice. But, other than that, nothing is actually consumed, and I wouldn't even give it a second thought . . . if it wasn't for THIS, in the very next song on the archive, "Ruby on the Ferris Wheel": <BR/><BR/>"And I did not cry because I like to eat human flesh and all my friends are cannibals too! And if you don't like it, well just put in a complaint at the FDA."<BR/><BR/>Well, here, if I'm not mistaken, he's coming right out and endorsing the eating of human flesh! And I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. It's anti-human (not to mention anti-Semitic by default). And it's a little disingenuous to think that putting in a complaint at the FDA is going to make things alright, isn't it? <BR/><BR/>And then, only a few lines later, we have this:<BR/><BR/>"I don't have any mercy on all those people who died from any kind of tribulation. Yeah, like I'm gonna worry about it . . . I want them dead . . . I want nothing to do with 'em at all! Kill 'em, burn 'em, fuck 'em, eat 'em . . . just EAT 'EM!"<BR/><BR/>Strong words, huh? Of course, the Sun City Girls have always been known for "pushing buttons" and "breaking taboos," so maybe this is just another example? Surely they're entitled to a satirical song every now and then, right? And part of satire is that it's not to be taken literally. Fair enough, and I'm willing to let even this rather shocking pro-cannibalism treatise pass . . . . if it wasn't for enough other references sprinkled throughout their work to give me pause. <BR/><BR/>Like this, from the innocuously titled "Sour Smells in Nevada": <BR/><BR/>"You know, human flesh is addictive. Especially the meat from the head and the insides of the thighs. You can tell a cannibal by them giving off sour smells, with eyes slickly greasy as though swimming in pools of fat. Just look in their eyes. That's how you spot a cannibal."<BR/><BR/>Now, THIS seems to communicate first-hand knowledge of what it's actually like to eat human flesh. I certainly never knew any of this stuff, and wouldn't it take someone who is actually experienced in the act to know such specific information?? <BR/><BR/>So, really, what do you think? Can someone can set my mind at ease about this? If anyone can vouch that they are not actually cannibals, I would sure appreciate it. I do really want to enjoy their music, and express my solidarity with those poor Arab cultures by purchasing their Sublime Frequencies records – but I don't know if I can give my money to cannibals. If anyone wants to offer any information, or a rebuttal of some kind, please do so. (Although, for the record, I actually have no intention whatsoever of being open to any new concepts of any kind. Just so you know.) <BR/><BR/>(end quote...!)<BR/><BR/>...y'all can decide for yourselves if I deserve it!Allan MacInnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05394301776870727673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8762075.post-1143852906710003542006-03-31T16:55:00.000-08:002006-03-31T16:55:00.000-08:00I decided to post a bit on the Sun City Girls Yaho...I decided to post a bit on the Sun City Girls Yahoo Group to see what people had to say. The general consensus is that the SCG are "deprogrammers" engaged in Lenny Bruce-style taboo busting and that they aren't serious in their Jewbaiting. The most interesting response thus far was from a fellow named Appearnance: <BR/><BR/>(Commence quote) <BR/><BR/>The first few response posts were going really good but.... <BR/><BR/>Allan, yes, the Bishops are American-born and their family is from <BR/>Lebanon. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure why you're assuming the "diabolical empire" in "I Deal A <BR/>Stick" is a Jewish one. I always took the SCG critique to be of the <BR/>worldwide imperialist power elite, specifically the U.S./Israel <BR/>military alliance (because of their own situation as Americans of <BR/>Lebanese descent), but anyone profiting off of the suffering of the <BR/>masses is fair game. The phrase "ambiguous slime" seems to suggest <BR/>that this stuff isn't easily explained by any one race being guilty. <BR/><BR/>As for "I Knew A Jew Named Frankenstein." Remember, Frankenstein <BR/>wasn't the monster, he was the mad doctor....the one who thought he <BR/>could control life....but your strongest point may be with this song. <BR/>It may be a cheap shot, at best a playground joke, but I defend it in <BR/>that the SCG are deprogrammers -- people are apathetic and complacent <BR/>and this is their way of slapping 'em around so they might feel <BR/>something. I salute you, Allan, because with your blog-posting <BR/>inquiry you're not being apathetic about it, and I think ultimately <BR/>that's the ONLY REASON the SCG sang the song, to get someone out of <BR/>their chair, to bring stagnant water to a boil so we could all start <BR/>COOKING again. Cooking with Satan? Perhaps. <BR/><BR/>The remoted-controlled airplanes? Pretty silly, but people have to <BR/>think more criticially about 9/11, and if it takes a far-fetched <BR/>theory to get 'em to even entertain the possibility, then bring it <BR/>on, because if you start by going that far, you'll at least come back <BR/>in a different place than the couch where you are a potato. It's not <BR/>ideal, but it is another needed slap in the face, a necessary rug-<BR/>yank. Even the biggest SCG fans sometimes have a hard time with <BR/>their 'prankster' moves, but it is NOT a far-fetched or ridiculous <BR/>belief structure to think that 9/11 was a move designed by extremely <BR/>powerful government extremists instead of the official underground <BR/>religious extremists explanation. And those in the US/Israel alliance <BR/>are arguably the most powerful government extremists in the world <BR/>today, so let's just say that even if they shouldn't be accused <BR/>outright, they should at least be called in for questioning....<BR/><BR/>"26 billion non-Jews died in an eat my Holocaust." I don't think <BR/>they're joking, I think they're being surreal. They're doing the <BR/>opposite of trivializing, they're heightening the situation <BR/>poetically so it can be thought of in different lights. I don't know <BR/>what it means either but I kind of take it to mean that the ALL of <BR/>Western modern society pretty much went south with the events of Nazi <BR/>Germany and just as significantly the Allied response to it. The <BR/>concentration camps may have been the most explicit physical <BR/>manifestation of it, but America turned around and annihilated entire <BR/>cities in Japan, as if that was somehow a morally superior decision. <BR/>And US big business was investing heavily in Nazi Germany all along, <BR/>with Prescott Bush himself doing it right up until 1942 when the US <BR/>government finally made him stop. (After that slap on the wrist he <BR/>became a senator from Connecticut.) The world power elite has sold <BR/>out completely to the military-industrial complex -- apparently <BR/>that's where the money really is -- and it's just getting worse and <BR/>worse every year. Has the US/Israel military alliance been <BR/>responsible for 26 billion deaths since WWII? Physically, maybe not, <BR/>but spiritually? I think so. <BR/><BR/>I'm willing to hear out anyone who gets on a stage and yells FUCK <BR/>ZIONISTS. All Americans do have a particular connection to the <BR/>Israel/Palestine conflict because the tanks they use to bulldoze <BR/>settlements have USA ARMY written on the side of 'em. Our tax dollars <BR/>pay for those weapons to be manufactured and our leading customer <BR/>for 'em is Israel, and they are not being used to counter terrorism, <BR/>they are being used to perpetuate it. Of course the Bishops and all <BR/>Americans have a stake in it, our power elite is using our money not <BR/>to end the conflict, but to foment the conflict further. And I say <BR/>FUCK THAT. <BR/><BR/>(End quote)<BR/><BR/>It's obviously very interesting that the Bishop's family hails from Lebanon -- their politics make quite a bit more sense, in that light (I had assumed they were originating from a non-engaged "American conspiracy theory" place, which would be more suspect.) I took issue with his reading of the 26 billion non-Jews dying: <BR/><BR/>> That's certainly one way of reading things. Another would be to say <BR/>that the <BR/>> band is mocking how Jews overestimate their suffering -- so what if <BR/>6 <BR/>> billion Jews died in the Holocaust, lots of people die, so "eat my <BR/>> Holocaust," and stop using yours to score political points or <BR/>justify the <BR/>> oppression of the Palestinians. Actually, I think my reading makes <BR/>more <BR/>> sense...<BR/><BR/>To which he responded, "I do too, nice one..." <BR/><BR/>Anyhow, there's been a certain amount of hostility from some of the Group members, and a lot of them seem to find my blog "too PC," which is, I suppose, a reasonable thing to say -- it IS, a little. It's made for a couple of interesting days. <BR/><BR/>Anyhow, I'll soon be off their list, but fans of the SCG are advised to check out the Yahoo Group devoted to them...<BR/><BR/>AllanAllan MacInnishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05394301776870727673noreply@blogger.com